Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts

Thursday, 7 July 2011

Independent: Why Muslim states must support LGBT rights

Article published on 25 June 2011
by Melody Moezzi

Last week, in a historic and long-overdue move, the United Nations passed a resolution recognising the rights of gay, lesbian and transgender people around the world.

With South Africa leading the charge, the UN Human Rights Council voted in favour of the resolution by a narrow margin of 23 to 19, with three abstentions. The new declaration holds that no one should be subject to discrimination or violence based on her or his sexual orientation or gender identity.

Sounds like common sense to me, something that ought to go without saying, but unfortunately, it cannot go without saying. According to Amnesty International, 76 countries around the world continue to criminalise consensual same-sex relations, and whether as a result of discriminatory legal systems or hate crimes or suicide, one thing is certain: Gays, lesbians and transgender individuals are being killed, tortured and victimised all over the world, simply for being who they are.

If that isn’t the very definition of a human rights violation, I’m not sure what is. The LGBT community represents the most vulnerable and marginalised sector of nearly every society worldwide, and as such, it’s vital that international bodies like the UN speak up in support of LGBT rights. Likewise, because it is so often religion that is abused and misused to justify the assault, murder and harassment of gays, lesbians and transgender people, it is equally important for religious individuals, groups and organisations to stand up in defence of the LGBT community.

As a Muslim, it is my moral obligation to speak out and stand up whenever I see an injustice being carried out, and if I see any particular group that is especially vulnerable or marginalised, it is my moral duty to rush to that community’s aid. So, it’s especially painful for me to see Muslim majority countries and members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) voting against this historic UN resolution. If it was, as I suspect, some alleged affinity for Islam that led Pakistan, Malaysia, Jordan, Senegal or other OIC countries to oppose this resolution, I have some words of caution and advice.

First, as Muslims, I’m sure you know that it is your religious duty to pursue peace and justice and that there is no sin worse than oppressing another human being. So, no matter your personal theological opinion or your interpretation of the Biblical story of Lot, it is incumbent upon you to resist oppression, and in doing so, to protect those who happen to be most vulnerable to it in any given time or place.

Second, if we, as Muslims, expect our rights to be respected around the world, then we too must respect the rights of other minority groups. This includes the LGBT community. As Muslims, we know what it’s like to live in a world that can be hostile and discriminatory. Therefore, we have an even greater obligation to create the least hostile and discriminatory planet we can.

Let’s face it, there is an alarmingly large number of people out there who are convinced that Islam is the devil incarnate, that we Muslims are out to conquer and destroy the world, and that Islam is both “wrong” and “immoral.” I know that these people exist because they love sending me emails. That said, I vehemently disagree with all of them, and I thank God that their hatred and bigotry hold no weight in any American court of law. So too, intolerance and homophobia should hold no more legal weight than any of my pen pal’s vicious Islamophobia.

Finally, the LGBT Muslim community, along with their many heterosexual allies such as myself, will not let bigots and homophobes define our religion for us or for the rest of the world. We have scholars and imams in our ranks, and we refuse to be considered “less Muslim” because of our sexual orientation, gender identity or our choice to acknowledge that such distinctions are in fact God-given.

Thus, the Muslim-majority states that chose to oppose the recent UN LGBT rights resolution have not spoken for Muslims worldwide, and this is one Muslim who isn’t about to let them try.

Melody Moezzi is a writer, commentator, speaker, activist, author and attorney. She is also the Executive Director of the interfaith non-profit organisation, 100 People of Faith.

Thursday, 1 July 2010

Graffitti: Civil Marriage is a Human Right Not a Heterosexual Privilege «English / Malti»

EN: Press Release 01/07/10; Luke Buhagiar; f/ Moviment Graffitti

Moviment Graffitti is issuing this press release with reference to comments made by the Imam and [Arch-] Bishop of Malta at a seminar intended to discuss the role of the family from a Muslim and Christian perspective. While the fact that both Christian and Muslim religious institutions cooperate with each other is very positive, they should be careful not to spread hate indirectly. Instead of uniting to promote tolerance and respect, they united in order to speak out against same-sex marriage, with disturbing comments such as that gay marriage will lead to "the destruction of the family".

Furthermore, Moviment Graffitti states that everyone, irrespective of their sexual orientation, has the right to form a family. Marriage is a human right and not a heterosexual privilege.

As regards to traditional and/or religious values about marriage or the family, Moviment Graffitti states that people obviously have the right to practise these values personally as long as these values do not harm and are not imposed on others. Even the rights of the minorities (in this case, LGBT persons) must be protected in order for our society to really and truly be tolerant and inclusive. Therefore, not granting the right to marriage (a basic right) to LGBT individuals is a form of discrimination based on sexual orientation.

The [Arch-] Bishop's and the Imam's comments continuously referred to the family and marriage in the Christian and/or the Muslim tradition. Moviment Graffitti views this as a very important point since it means that, since not everyone is either Christian or Muslim, same-sex marriage should be legalised for those who agree with it.

One is not being forced to marry anyone; rather, this type of marriage should be legalised in order to make more space for personal decision and for the rights given to married couples to be enjoyed by homosexual persons as well. Therefore, comments such as that same-sex marriage "will lead to catastrophes and destruction" are unfounded and their only aim is irrational scaremongering.

MT: Iz-Zwieg Civili huwa Dritt tal-Bniedem u Mhux Privilegg Eterosesswali.

Il-Moviment Graffitti qed johrog din l-istqarrija stampa b'referenza ghall-kummenti tal-Imam u l-[Arc]Isqof ta' Malta f'seminar intenzjonat li jiddiskuti l-irwol tal-familja minn perspettiva Musulmana u Kristjana. Filwaqt li l-fatt li l-istituzzjonijiet religjuzi Kristjani u Musulmani jikkoperaw flimkien huwa pozittiv hafna, ghandhom joqghodu attenti biex ma jxerrdux mibgheda indirettament. Minflok ma inghaqdu halli jippromwovu t-tolleranza u r-rispett, dawn inghaqdu sabiex jitkellmu kontra z-zwieg bejn persuni tal-istess sess, b'kummenti disturbanti bhal li dan it-tip taz-zwieg se jwassal ghad-"distruzzjoni tal-familja".

Barra minn hekk, il-Moviment Graffitti jghid li kull individwu, irrispettivament mill-orjentazzjoni sesswali tieghu jew taghha, ghandu d-dritt li jifforma familja. Iz-zwieg huwa dritt tal-bniedem u mhux privilegg eterosesswali.

Rigward valuri tradizzjonali jew religjuzi marbutin maz-zwieg jew il-familja, Moviment Graffitti jghid li ovjament in-nies ghandhom id-dritt li jipprattikaw dawn il-valuri, sakemm dawn il-valuri ma jaghmlu hsara lil hadd u ma jigu imponuti fuq hadd. Anke d-drittijiet tal-minoranza (f'dal-kaz, persuni LGBT) ghandhom jigu protetti sabiex is-socjeta' taghna tkun verament inklussiva u tolleranti. Ghalhekk, li dawn in-nies ma jinghatawx id-dritt taz-zwieg (dritt baziku), hija forma ta' diskriminazzjoni bbazata fuq l-orjentazzjoni sesswali ta' dak li jkun.

Il-kummenti tal-[Arc]Isqof u tal-Imam kontinwament irreferew ghall-familja u z-zwieg fit-tradizzjoni Kristjana u/jew Musulmana. Il-Moviment Graffitti jara dan il-fatt bhala punt importanti ghax b'hekk, peress li mhux kulhadd huwa Kristjan jew Musulman, iz-zwieg bejn persuni tal-istess sess ghandu jkun legalizzat ghal min jaqbel mieghu.

Hadd mhu qed jigi mgieghel jizzewweg lil hadd; anzi, dan it-tip ta' zwieg ghandu jigi legalizzat sabiex ikun hemm spazju ghall-ghazla personali ta' dak li jkun u sabiex id-drittijiet li jinghataw lil koppji mizzewga jkunu jistghu igawduhom persuni omosesswali wkoll. Ghalhekk kummenti bhal li z-zwieg bejn persuni tal-istess sess "se jwassal ghal katastrofi u distruzzjoni" huma minghajr bazi soda, u l-unika skop taghhom huwa t-tixrid ta' bizgha irrazzjonali.

Friday, 25 June 2010

Pink News: Delegates at faith-based Maltese seminar condemn gay marriage

June 25, 2010 by Christopher Brocklebank

Muslim and Catholic preachers gathered at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Paola, Malta, yesterday to discuss the role of the family in a modern, globalised society, negative media coverage of faith and the issue of gay marriage, which they united against.

Archbishop Paul Cremona and the head of the Islamic Centres and Propagation Bureau, Ammar Hreba, began by taking the press to task for what they considered to be a proliferation of unwarranted and one-sided attacks on faith issues. Imam Muhammed el Sadi, head of the Islamic Cultural Centre, said that homosexuality was "unnatural, immoral, unhealthy and fruitless".

Also Present was Archbishop Paul Cremona, who spoke out against secularisation in the West and went on to discuss the role of the family in society, stating his belief that any divergence from or destruction of said institution would have a significantly negative impact upon society and the economy.

Mr Cremona added, "We also need to use the media to promote messages in favour of stability of marriages and family. Many aspects of the media give negative ideas of what true love is."

He went on to assert that marriage was between a man and a woman. In marriage, he said, a couple promised to honour, love and respect each other "till death do them part".

Mr Hreba was blunt about his views on same-sex marriage, saying, "If we neglect our religion based on the negative direction of the media, this will lead to violence. If we let the family collapse, there will be catastrophe and destruction.

"Same-sex marriage destroys the entity of the family which began with Adam and Eve." Curiously, he was also keen to emphasise the importance of "tolerance" and dialogue between religions and cultures.

After the press conference, the rest of the discussion took place in private, where the delegates were joined by theologians. According to timesofmalta.com, sources said the concluding statement described the family as a natural institution between man and woman.

[Click here to view the comments on the Pink News' website.]

Times: Muslims and Catholics unite against gay marriage but disagree on divorce

Friday, 25th June 2010 by Christian Peregin

From left: Imam Muhammed El Sadi; head of Islamic Centres Ammar Hreba; Archbishop Paul Cremona and Maltese Muslim Mario Farrugia Borg. Photo: Darrin Zammit Lupi


Muslim and Catholic preachers yesterday discussed the role of the family in a globalised society, uniting against same-sex marriages and the "negative" media but disagreeing on divorce and polygamy.

Journalists were only allowed to sit in for the seminar's opening speeches by Archbishop Paul Cremona and the head of the Islamic Centres and Propagation Bureau, Ammar Hreba, who both chastised the press for its promulgation of negative ideas.

In a paper prepared and presented by Imam Muhammed el Sadi, homosexuality was lambasted as "unnatural, immoral, unhealthy and fruitless" while divorce was described as something Islam "does not like" and therefore allows "only" twice.

"For divorce to be valid it should be based on true intention. A forced divorce is not valid nor that of an intoxicated or an enraged person. The divorce should not take place during the woman's monthly period or her period of purity if the husband has sexual relations with her," the Muslim leader's paper read.

Mgr Cremona said: "Most countries in the West are secularised, if not secularist. This means the Church has to convince society of the importance of family."

He said the destruction of a family affected the state negatively, even in economic terms, while stable relationships gave a great contribution, especially through the upbringing of children.

Mgr Cremona called on the state to help prepare couples for marriage, particularly because so many were choosing to get married civilly.

"We also need to use the media to promote messages in favour of stability of marriages and family. Many aspects of the media give negative ideas of what true love is."

He stressed that marriage was between a man and a woman where each was a gift from God to the other. In marriage, a couple promised to honour, love and respect each other "till death do them part".

Mr Hreba was even more critical of the media and homosexuality.

"If we neglect our religion based on the negative direction of the media, this will lead to violence. If we let the family collapse, there will be catastrophe and destruction. Same-sex marriage destroys the entity of the family which began with Adam and Eve," he said, emphasising the importance of tolerance and dialogue between religions and cultures.

Mario Farrugia Borg, a member of the World Islamic Call Society Malta branch, which organised the seminar, pointed out that Muslims and Catholics had "so much in common" regarding their views on the family.

Despite the "new challenges which did not exist 30 and 40 years ago", the fact that the Catholic and Muslim communities were meeting to discuss this issue was a positive sign, he noted.

A number of theologians from both faiths were present for the rest of the discussion which was held behind closed doors and focused on four papers, including the one written by the Imam. Sources said their concluding statement described the family as a natural institution between man and woman but did not say it was a permanent bond.

Factbox

Excerpts from paper by Imam Muhammed El Sadi.

• No human society can ever manage without the family system, which organises the relations between men and women for posterity.

• In Islamic law, there is absolutely no room for same-sex marriages... they contradict the family values and endanger the family system.

• Adultery leads to the birth of illegitimate children, causes fatal diseases and abortion.

• Islam's attitude towards the family and the legislation of divorce and polygamy may seem contradictory but in fact these support the family system if carried out properly and justly. Polygamy means forming a new family and providing care for another woman. Divorce means forming a new, stable family instead of the former broken one.

• Islam does not like divorce and tries to prevent it in different ways and considers it only when there are no chances to avoid it as a necessity, not as a privilege.

• Islam permits polygamy to solve some social problems like the presence of many widows and orphans after war and cases of barren women and those who fail to satisfy the sexual need of their husbands.

• Men must provide for their families... he uses his reason more than emotion and has more experience in life affairs due to his various wide connections with people and businesses. This leadership of the family in no way means that man is the master and the woman his slave; rather, it means more responsibility, care and service towards the family.

• Islam obliges the husband to maintain his wife and children completely. The wife is not obliged to work or share financial burdens of the family.

• The main job of the wife is to care for her home, husband and children. The husband should consult his wife, advise her to be a better Muslim and satisfy her sexual needs.

• Globalisation imposes pressure on all religions to change certain teachings in order to satisfy certain international charters and groups. (But) we cannot change the teachings of God or update them... We believe the laws of God are perfect.

[Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website. More comments can be found here.]

Tuesday, 22 December 2009

Times: Create bridges, not division

Sunday, 20th December 2009 by Carmen Caruana, LGBT Labour, Żurrieq

As a lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) network, we would like to express our disappointment at the comments made by Imam Mohamed El Sadi, whereby he not-so-subtly compared homosexual relationships to those between animals and human beings, and blamed the LGBT community for all or most of the world's ills.

The Labour Party's LGBT network reiterates that it fully respects other people's religion, belief and opinion but it expects leaders and representatives of other religions in Malta do the same.

While discussing 'respect', we completely fail to understand how a rather vulnerable community that falls prey to discrimination in Malta should discriminate against another minority. We sincerely hope, for the good of both our country and diversity, that these comments will not be repeated in an open and democratic society such as Malta's, where the values of respect and tolerance are so important.

Consequently, we firmly believe that the Imam should issue an immediate apology to the LGBT community, their families and friends.

Although we consider these comments to be very strong, homophobic and out of place in a country such as ours, instead of creating division, we still wish to learn how to create bridges with people of good faith.

[Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

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Wednesday, 9 December 2009

Daily Mail: All homosexuals should be stoned to death, says Muslim preacher of hate


By SAM GREENHILL
Last updated at 12:34 AM on 21st March 2009

All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday.

Anjem Choudary, the firebrand cleric who wants to see Britain ruled by Sharia law, said such a regime was the only way to fix the country's ills.


Under it, adulterers and homosexuals would be killed by stoning. Asked if that would include anybody - even a Cabinet minister such as Business Secretary Lord Mandelson - Choudary responded with an astonishing diatribe.

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Hate, hate and more hate: Anjem Choudary (centre), flanked by two cohorts, prepares to give a press conference on Friday in which he says homosexuals should be stoned to death


He said: 'If a man likes another man, it can happen, but if you go on to fulfil your desire, if it is proved, then there is a punishment to follow. You don't stone to death unless there are four eyewitnesses. It is a very stringent procedure.


'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.'

Choudary was speaking at a press conference in arranged by Muslim extremists to justify their protest in Luton last week against soldiers returning home from .


    His incendiary remarks immediately prompted calls for him to be investigated by police. Tory MP Patrick Mercer said: 'These statements show the depravity of this man's beliefs. They must incite hatred and encourage terrorism, and I would encourage the Metropolitan Police to investigate them as rigorously as possible.'


    The Rev Sharon Ferguson, chief executive of the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement, said: 'This is appalling. The police should look very closely at what has been said to see if there is any action they should be taking.'

    Contempt: Muslim protesters at Tuesday's parade in Luton

    Contempt: Muslim protesters hurl insults at the homecoming parade of British soldiers in Luton


    Police were not at the press conference but a Scotland Yard spokesman said officers would investigate if a complaint was made.


    Only last week, Choudary, a self-styled 'judge of the Sharia Court of the UK', was defending the shameful protests against soldiers parading through Luton after a tour of duty in Iraq.


    Yet a week ago, the Daily Mail exposed fundamentalist Choudary's student days when he was pictured swigging beer, cavorting with women and puffing on a cannabis joint - offences for which he would be lashed and stoned under his version of Sharia law. Yesterday he sheepishly confessed:


    'Yes, I was not always practising Islam. Certainly in my student days I was not a practising Muslim.'

    Muslim cleric Omar Bakri Mohammedi

    Wake-up call: Omar Bakri has warned of another 7/7-style attack

    Yesterday Choudary, 42, was flanked by two fellow firebrands at the press conference at the Express by Holiday Inn Hotel in Chingford, East London.


    It started with warning from fellow hate cleric Omar Bakri, who warned that Britons should 'wake up before it is too late' or suffer another 7/7 terror attack.


    The preacher threatened that ordinary Muslims living here would rise up and retaliate for the 'evil' acts of British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.


    Bakri, banned from Britain four years ago, broadcast his threats from his Lebanon bolthole over a speakerphone.

    In London, sitting alongside Choudary was Ishtiaq Alamgir, another ringleader of the Luton protests, who accused British soldiers of torture, rape and murder. He said: 'Those British soldiers have blood on their hands.'


    A third firebrand, Abu Abdullah, 30, branded the British Government 'tyrannical' and warned: 'Do not relax, do not recline, or you will be touched by the fire of hell.'

    Times: Christian understanding of God [regarding Imam's comments]

    Monday, 7th December 2009 by Fr Mario Attard OFM Cap, San Ġwann

    God is a controversial subject as much as it is intriguing. Both believers and non-believers have their own views about God. The tones of the discussion might differ according to the diverging ideas presented for argumentation.

    Nevertheless, there are some concepts which, by their very nature, are unacceptable to endorse. For instance, I find it pretty horrible to accept a God who is portrayed as a ruthless judge and knows no mercy in the way he exercises his judgment. How can a God who chops off the hands of thieves and carries out capital punishment on those who are engaged in same-sex marriages, homosexuality, adultery and abortion can ever qualify to be merciful? Additionally, it is very worrying to hear that such a God is so cool and tranquil to end a human person's life much on the same lines as an enraged master would kill a disobedient servant.

    Personally speaking, the Christian understanding of God tends to solicit in me more faith and trust in Him. The reason that compels me to hold such a view is neatly expressed by what Jesus said to Nicodemus: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him" (Jn 3, 16-17).

    In Pope Benedict XVI's words in his encyclical letter Deus Caritas Est, "faith tells us that God has given his Son for our sakes and gives us the victorious certainty that it is really true: God is love!" (§ 39). Only an omnipotent God can send His Son into this world to die for fallen humanity.

    God's omnipotence is powerfully shown in Jesus' incarnation, self-oblation on the cross and His glorious resurrection. The Christian God is mighty not because He is violent and bloodthirsty but because He is merciful. As the Son of God, Jesus unveiled the merciful face of God the Father to us. Hence, Pope John Paul II, in his encyclical which treats God's mercy, Dives In Misericordia, says: "Making the Father present as love and mercy is, in Christ's own consciousness, the fundamental touchstone of His mission as the Messiah" (§ 3).

    The Christian God is a loving God specifically because He is a merciful God. This is so since, for Christianity, "mercy is an indispensable dimension of love; it is as it were love's second name and, at the same time, the specific manner in which love is revealed and effected vis-a-vis the reality of the evil that is in the world, affecting and besieging man, insinuating itself even into his heart and capable of causing him to 'perish in Gehenna'" (§ 7).

    The sympathisers of a violent God may fear that non-violence denudes God from his justice. According to Christianity though, the opposite is true. A God, who is just, must necessarily be merciful. Think, for instance, of the parable of the Prodigal Son. The father had every right to punish his son for being a wayward. Instead, he said to his servants: "Bring quickly the best robe and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet; and bring the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and make merry, for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found" (Lk 15, 22-24).

    Such a merciful response of God's gratuitous mercy to obstinate human beings highly impels the latter to show mercy in their dealings with one another. "Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful" (Lk 6, 36). Within the social context of everyday life, this would imply that "true mercy is, so to speak, the most profound source of justice. If justice is in itself suitable for 'arbitration' between people concerning the reciprocal distribution of objective goods in an equitable manner, love and only love (including that kindly love that we call 'mercy') is capable of restoring man to himself" (§ 14).

    The awesomeness of the Christian God shines in the fact that He does not make victims of His justice but He is himself becomes the victim of love on the cross. The Christian God is not revengeful or a puppet of his murderous wrath but an ever-forgiving God. When he was dying on the cross, the Son of God prayed and forgave his executioners. "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do" (Lk 23, 34).

    In being merciful and forgiving, the Christian God is just and omnipotent. "How great is the mercy of the Lord and his forgiveness for those who turn to Him!" (Sir 17, 29).

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

    Monday, 30 November 2009

    RTK: Bla Kantunieri: Kummenti fuq l-Imam el Sadi

    Programm tar-Radju imxandar fit-30 ta' Novembru 2009 f' 12:20 u fit-20:05

    Thursday, 26 November 2009

    MaltaStar: Adultery, homosexuality and same-sex marriages are wrong – Imam

    26 November 2009 10:42

    “When I expressed my disagreement with adultery, homosexuality and same-sex marriages, I did it out of honesty and goodwill,” Muhammad El Sadi, Imam of the Muslim community in Malta, said following a controversy over his comments in particular to the homosexual community.

    The Imam expressed his concerned that “adultery, homosexuality and same-sex marriages” were incurring the “wrath of God.” His comments were met with indignation by the gay community and NGOs.

    Writing on the Times of Malta, while offering an apology for those who have been hurt by his comment, he reiterated his position, stating: “I would be betraying my conviction, faith, mission, Muslims and non-Muslims and deceiving the Maltese public if I said that these practices were safe and proper, securing the welfare of man or pleasing God in any way.”

    “These practices are wrong and we will keep advising people to avoid such acts,” the Imam added.

    Imam added that through his statement he did not mean to hurt anybody’s sentiment but rather a defensive position to a number of provocative questions. “I was simply exerting my right of expression. If my words did hurt anybody, I do heartily apologise.”

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on MaltaStar's website.]

    MaltaStar: Concerns on Imam’s statements

    http://maltastar.com/pages/ms09dart.asp?a=5684
    25 November 2009 18:44

    Moviment Graffitti expressed its concernes about the Imam El Sadi’s comments where he likened same-sex marriage to marriage involving a cat or a dog and where he spoke about inhumane practices to deal with persons who commit certain crimes.

    Moviment Graffitti stated that it stands for respect to all religious beliefs, these latter should also respect all people, irrespective of their sexual orientation. “Homosexuals have the right to be respected in every country and we also believe that these people should be recognised as couples and enjoy the same rights as those enjoyed by heterosexual couples.”

    ”We understand that El Sadi’s comments do not represent all Muslims, same as the homophobic comments of certain representatives of the Catholic Church do not represent all Catholics. We hope that in the near future the two sides can come closer together and that there will be respect from both sides and work together for the benefit of a more inclusive society.”

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on MaltaStar's website.]

    Times: Upholding spiritual and moral values

    Thursday, 26th November 2009 by Muhammad El Sadi

    With reference to the article What Is Wrong With Chopping Of Thieves' Hands, Imam Asks (November 19), I would like to clarify some points.

    The Bondìplus edition during which I uttered the title statement was not about Sharia law, rather it was about whether crucifixes should be removed from classrooms. In spite of the fact that Islam does not believe in the crucifixion dogma and its philosophy, my position was against the removal of crucifixes because it goes against the Islamic values of democracy and religious freedom and because it creates hatred and extremism among the followers of different religions.

    Besides, I consider such a precedent as a threat to all religions because it institutes the reign of atheism over religion and paves the way to remove religions from our lives and from society. Unfortunately, my positive attitude, which harmonises with that of the Church and the public, was totally ignored and blocked out by The Times article, the media in general and those who are concerned with the crucifixes' issue.

    When I expressed my disagreement with adultery, homosexuality and same-sex marriages, I did it out of honesty and goodwill. I would be betraying my conviction, faith, mission, Muslims and non-Muslims and deceiving the Maltese public if I said that these practices were safe and proper, securing the welfare of man or pleasing God in any way. These practices are wrong and we will keep advising people to avoid such acts.

    In fact, these practices are not accepted neither in Islam nor in Judaism and Christianity. Those who have forgotten, let them re-read their Bible to remember how God dealt with those who committed disobedience and immoral practices. God is not dead. He can interfere where, when and how He wills.

    Civilisation is not only measured by its freedoms but also by its moral and ethical values and how it strikes the balance between the welfare of the body and the spirit.

    When I read the comments of certain correspondents in timesofmalta.com I recalled what the people of the prophet Lot, peace be upon him, replied when he told them to abandon homosexuality: "Out of the way! Here is one who came as a foreigner, and would set himself up as a judge. Now we will treat you worse than them" (Genesis 19:9).

    "Drive out the followers of Lot from your city, these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure" (Holy Koran 27:56).

    Truly, humanity does not change!

    Sharia does not consist of criminal laws only but it covers all essential social, economical and political aspects of life like marriage, divorce, inheritance, business, finance and international relations.

    We believe in Sharia because it is a part of the Holy Koran, the divine word of God. No true Muslim can deny or alter any Islamic law. Islam is not a supermarket from which we select what we like or what pleases others. It is a matter of belief or disbelief in the perfection of God, the authenticity and validity of the Holy Koran. Sharia is implemented only in countries with Muslim majorities, where governments are also Islamic and which believe in the teachings of Islam and want to put them into practice through democracy and the rule of the people.

    For Sharia to succeed, Islam should be practised as a whole because Islam is a comprehensive and complimentary system. It is unjust to cut off the hand of the thief in a society lacking social justice and social security and where people suffer famine and unemployment. It is also unjust, obviously, to apply this law to under-aged children who are not yet old enough to shoulder the responsibility of their deeds or to those who were forced in any way to commit a crime.

    The severe Sharia punishments are not an end in themselves but they are means to frighten those who intend to commit a crime and make them refrain from executing their evil intentions. It is a preventive measure rather than a cure. It aims at securing justice and security for the society. These punishments are not applied except after securing all the basic needs for people and securing a just judicial system.

    The judges who deal with such cases should do their best to find out the slightest evidence in favour of the accused to avoid the execution of the punishment. Governors or heads of state can also grant special amnesties to condemned persons to give them another chance to amend themselves.

    There are certain people in the West who are using the Sharia issue to incite people against Islam. They are trying to frighten people by claiming that Muslims want to implement Sharia in the West. How can Muslims demand Sharia to be implemented in a non-Muslim society? If Muslims could not implement Sharia in Muslim countries because they could not secure its requirements how can they implement it in non-Muslim countries?

    I hope that the hot debate on my misunderstood statements lead to more mutual understanding and respect and more adherence to the spiritual and moral values. I hope that it turns our attention to ask ourselves: Where are we vis-à-vis God and his teachings? And in which direction are we going: paradise or hell?

    Through my statements, I did not mean to hurt anybody's sentiments. It was only a defensive position to a number of provocative questions. I was simply exerting my right of expression. If my words did hurt anybody, I do heartily apologise.

    To those who wronged me and questioned my credibility through newspapers and the internet, I say: Oh God, guide them and forgive them.

    The author is Imam at the Paola Islamic Centre.

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

    L-Orizzont: Aktar tħassib għall-kummenti tal-Imam

    26.11.9 Minn SAMMY SAMMUT

    Il-Moviment Graffitti ngħaqad ma’ movimenti oħrajn f’espressjoni ta’ tħassib serju għal kummenti li saru mill-Mexxej Musulman f’Malta, l-Imam Mohamed El Sadi fejn dan, fost dikjarazzjonijiet oħrajn, qabbel iż-żwieġ bejn żewġ persuni tal-istess sess ma’ żwieġ bejn kelb u qattus u fejn tkellem dwar prattiċi inumani biex tissanzjona lil min ikun wettaq ċerti reati.

    L-Imam El Sadi għamel dawn il-kummenti waqt li kien qed jieħu sehem fuq il-programm televiżiv “Bondiplus”, li jixxandar fuq l-istazzjon tal-istat lokali, PBS. Fost oħrajn, El Sadi saħaq li, b’konformità tal-Liġi tax-Sharia, il-qtugħ tal-idejn ta’ persuna ħatja ta’ serq huwa “kastig mistħoqq” għax nies bħal dawn ma ħaqqhomx aħjar. Huwa qal ukoll li jaqbel mal-kastigi li jingħataw lil persuni omosesswali, minkejja li f’ċerti pajjiżi Musulmani l-kastig jista’ jinkludi saħansitra għomor il-ħabs u f’ċerti każi anke l-mewt.

    L-ewwel persuna li esprimiet l-oppożizzjoni qawwija tagħha għal dawn il-kummenti kien l-Inġinier Patrick Attard, li mhux biss kien l-ewwel kandidat li kkontesta Elezzjoni Ġenerali li ddikjara bil-miftuħ li huwa gay iżda hu magħruf sew għall-ħidma sfiqa tiegħu favur it-tħaris tad-drittijiet fundamentali tal-persuni LGBT.

    L-inġinier Attard qal li kien ixxokkjat bil-kummenti li għamel El Sadi meta attribwixxa l-qilla ta’ Alla fid-dinja għall-aċċettazzjoni akbar ta’ persuni gay. Din ma kinitx l-ewwel darba li mexxejja Musulmani taw x’jifhmu li diżastri naturali li seħħew fid-dinja, bħalma kien it-Tsunami, huma riżultat tal-fatt li qed ikun hawn aktar nies li jaċċettaw persuni gay.

    Patrick Attard fi stqarrija li ħareġ qal li xtaq jistaqsi lill-Imam jekk jaqbilx mal-qtil ritwali u l-eżekuzzjoni ta’ persuni gay f’ċerti pajjiżi Musulmani, bħal per eżempju t-tgħalliq taż-żewġ żgħażagħ Mahmoud Asgari u Ayaz Marhoni għas-sempliċi raġuni li dawn setgħu kienu persuni gay.

    Staqsa wkoll lil El Sadi jekk kienx qiegħed jissuġġerixxi li anke f’Malta persuni gay jibdew jingħataw il-mewt.

    L-Inġinier Attard qal li l-Imam għandu jkun grat lejn il-komunità Maltija ta’ bejn 15,000 u 30,000 persuna gay jew lesbjani li bit-taxxi li jħallsu qegħdin jgħinu biex ikunu salvati eluf ta’ persuni Musulmani li qegħdin jaħarbu mit-tbatijiet, sofferenzi u l-gwerer li hemm f’art twelidhom, u biex dawn jingħataw kenn fejn joqogħdu flimkien ma’ ħtiġijiet oħra bażiċi, bħal ikel u xorb. “L-Imam El Sadi għandu jagħmel apolo- ġija lill-persuni kollha gay u lesbjani Maltin u Għawdxin,” saħaq Patrick Attard.

    Min-naħa tagħha, il-kelliema ta’ Alternattiva Demokratika għad-Drittijiet Ċivili, Yvonne Evejer qalet li “AD tirrispetta d-dritt ta’ kulħadd li jipprattika t-twemmin reliġjuż tiegħu, iżda qatt ma nistgħu naċċettaw dikjarazzjonijiet simili għal dawk ta’ El Sadi li, apparti li huma kuntrarji għal-liġijiet Maltin, iwasslu biex tinxtered aktar mibgħeda, vjolenza u nuqqas ta’ rispett lejn id-dinjità tal-persuna umana”.

    Issa anke l-Moviment Graffitti ħareġ jikkummenta dwar id-dikjarazzjonijiet pubbliċi magħmulin mill-Imam El Sadi. Il-Moviment Graffitti jgħid li ghalkemm għandna nirrispettaw kull twemmin reliġjuż, ir-rispett għandu jiġi wkoll mingħand dawn tal-aħħar lejn kull persuna, irrispettivament mill-orjentazzjoni sesswali tagħha.

    “Persuni omosesswali għandhom iħossuhom irrispettati f’kull pajjiż u naqblu wkoll li dawn in-nies għandhom jiġu rikonoxxuti bħala koppji u jgawdu mill-istess drittijiet li jgawdu minn- hom koppji eterosesswali. Nemmnu wkoll li d-drittijiet fundamental tal-bniedem għandhom jgħoddu għal kulħadd, inkluż dawk li jkunu nstabu ħatja ta’ xi reat kriminali,” qal il-Moviment Graf-fitti.

    Kompla jgħid li wieħed jifhem li l-kummenti ta’ El Sadi ma jirrappreżentawx lill-Musulmani kollha, bl-istess mod li kummenti omofobiċi li ġieli ntqalu minn rappreżentanti tal-Knisja Kattolika ma jirrappreżentawx lill-Kattoliċi kollha.

    Il-Moviment Graffitti esprima wkoll ix-xewqa li fi żmien qrib “naraw liż-żewġ naħat jersqu iktar lejn xulxin u jkun hemm rispett reċiproku u ħidma flimkien għal soċjetà iktar inklussiva.”

    Tuesday, 24 November 2009

    Times: Apology due to gay, lesbian community

    Tuesday, 24th November 2009 by Patrick Attard, Naxxar

    I was shocked to read (November 19) that the Muslim leader in Malta, Imam Mohamed El Sadi, attributes the wrath of God in the world to the acceptance of gay people. It is not the first time natural disasters are attributed to the increasing acceptance of gay people as was the tsunami which hit Thailand in 2004, which was called God's punishment for homosexuality by some Muslim leaders.

    I would like to ask the Imam if he agrees with the ritual murder or execution of gays in the Muslim world - for example, the public hanging of gay teenagers Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni in Iran in 2005. I also would like to ask if he is suggesting that people who are gay should be executed in Malta.

    The Imam should be grateful to the 15,000 to 30,000 Maltese gay and lesbian taxpayers who help fund the search-and-rescue, shelter and distributed food to his Muslim brothers and sisters who are fleeing hardship and war from their own Muslim country.

    The Imam should issue a clear apology to all Maltese and Gozitan gays and lesbians. The Imam explicitly delivered a message Josef Ratzinger has been hiding in euphemisms for over 23 years.

    I hope that the Criminal Code (82A) will be soon amended to include sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of groups against which the incitement of hatred is punishable.

    I hope that both Alternattiva Demokratika, which boasts that it doesn't only give lip service to the gay minority, and the new Labour LGBT network, which is now facing its first test, will stand up for the people they represent.

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

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    Note: AD issued a press-release which was published one day before this letter:

    MaltaStar: Imam should apologise

    http://www.maltastar.com/pages/ms09dart.asp?a=5647
    24.11.9 by Patrick Attard
    Your Camera. Your Views.

    I was shocked to read that the Muslim leader in Malta, Imam Mohamed El Sadi, attributes the Wrath of God in the world to the acceptance of gay people.

    It is not the first time natural disasters are attributed to the increasing acceptance of gay people as was the Tsunami which hit Thailand (26.12.2004) which was called God's punishment for homosexuality by some Muslim leaders.

    I would like to ask the Imam if he agrees with the ritual murder or execution of gays in the Muslim world, - for example the hanging of gay teenagers Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni who were publicly hung in Iran on 19.7.2005. I also would like to ask if he is suggesting that people who are gay should be executed in Malta.

    The Imam should be grateful to the 15,000 to 30,000 Maltese Gay and Lesbian Tax-payers who help fund the search-and-rescue, shelter and distributed-food to his Muslim brothers and sisters who are fleeing hardship and war from their own Muslim country and being offered temporary assistance and shelter in Malta.

    The Imam should issue a clear apology to all Maltese and Gozitan gays and lesbians.

    The Imam delivered explicitly a message Josef Ratzinger has been hiding in euphemisms for over 23 years.

    I hope that the Criminal Code (82A) will be soon amended to include sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of groups against which the incitement of hatred is punishable.

    I hope that both Alternattiva Demokratika, which boasts that it doesn't only give lip service to the gay minority and the new Labour LGBT network, which is now facing its first test, will stand up for the people they represent.

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on MaltaStar's website.]

    Monday, 23 November 2009

    Times: How the Imam stole my hands

    Sunday, 22nd November 2009 by Mark-Anthony Falzon

    Where the Inquisition left off, the Imam picked up. Just when we thought we had heard it all, along came Mohammed El Sadi on last week's Bondiplus to tell us it is only natural that thieves should have their hands chopped off.

    He was also generous with encores, as befits his smiling and benevolent persona. In an interview carried in Thursday's The Times, the Imam informed us of the 'wrath of God' at things like homosexuality and same-sex marriage. He also said (as reported) that "under Sharia law such crimes may even be punishable by death".

    The Imam finds 'Sharia law' sort of agreeable. After all, if the Lord seems to take issue with same-sex marriage rather than, say, African children dying of eminently avoidable diseases, who are we to argue? Off with their groomed heads I say.

    It's not the first time the Imam has shared his wisdom with us. In March 2007, for example, he told maltastar.com of - you guessed it - the wrath of God at - yes, yes - homosexuality.

    Thankfully, he stopped short of describing what 'Sharia law' would choose to amputate in that case.

    Makes me wonder what Heaven must be like, ruled by a divinity perennially furious at thieves and gays and ever-hungry for bloody souvenirs of their sins. It also makes me wonder what our country would be like ruled by men like Mohammed El Sadi.

    Not just wonder in fact, but do something to prevent it. Far from one of 'recession of values' and the other nonsense that some politicians talk about, we are actually living in a time of unprecedented freedom and civil liberties. And I don't want the Imam or anyone else to touch that, thank you very much.

    The obvious solution is one we come across very often. It goes as follows. The Imam is the voice of Islam in Malta; Muslims are outsiders (as in immigrants) here; the easiest way to get rid of their views is to get rid of them entirely; we must therefore resist the migration of Muslims into Malta.

    Lest my readers think I cannonball the heads of infidels across the harbour in my spare time, I rush to add that the above paragraph is nonsense. There are many reasons why xenophobia and/or Islamophobia won't get us anywhere.

    First, we must consider to what extent the Imam really represents Muslims in Malta, or anywhere. The answer is ambiguous. Structurally and formally, he certainly does not. Islam doesn't have a catechism or bishops and things. There is one Koran but very many schools of interpretation.

    Tangibly, I know for a fact that many Muslims would disagree that thieves should have their hands chopped off. I personally know two Egyptian Muslims who attended the Corradino mosque once and ran a mile.

    The argument applies elsewhere. Of late a certain Rajan Zed, who apparently is based in the States, has been sending missives about the (lack of) rights of Hindus in Malta. But then Rajan Zed is quite simply self-appointed. Hindus have lived happily in Malta for over 140 years, and they don't need anyone to tell them how to cope here. All of which warns us of the danger of talking about 'religious/community leaders'.

    At the same time, this is rather too easy. There is a sense in which the Imam does represent Muslims in Malta. He certainly enjoys widespread moral legitimacy among them, and he is involved in the running of a school that, by his own saying on Bondiplus, educates children in the values of (his, presumably) Islam. (A terrifying thought that children are being inspired by values such as that 'criminals' - easy isn't it? - should also be amputees, and gays 're-educated' or dead.)

    One might also expect, if the Imam is not representative, moderate Muslims publicly to distance themselves from his ideas. Until they do, we can't really be blamed for assuming El Sadi is the voice of Islam in Malta.

    Whether or not he is, there are other reasons why the 'xenophobic' paragraph above is misguided. First, it is not true that Muslims are outsiders here - there are many, and counting, Maltese nationals who are actually Muslims. Second, my issue is with the Imam's ideas, not his immigration papers. In sum, El Sadi and whoever else have as much right to live here as I do. There's a second possible way of dealing with the Imam, and that's to silence him - never again to invite him on national television, block his access to newspapers, haul him to court if he persists in speaking his mind, and such. For reasons I explained three weeks ago in my column on Nick Griffin and the BNP, I think this second option is as bad as the first.

    Which leaves us with a third solution: politics. The surest and most acceptable way of consigning the Imam's views where they really belong is to engage them politically. This is what The Times did when it invited people to comment on his 'hands-free gays' rant.

    I would have expected many more individuals and groups to come out.

    This has to do partly with political correctness, partly complacency. On the first, it somehow feels 'not quite right' to contest the Imam. For we're supposed to be multicultural and celebrate diversity no? Hmm.

    The biggest pitfall in all this is probably complacency. The belief that is, that respect towards the dignity of criminals and gays (only coupled here because of the case in question) is somehow natural, and that rabid views like the Imam's are temporary aberrations which will just go away. My guess is they won't.

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

    Times: AD says Imam should apologise

    Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Alternattiva Demokratika Żgħażagħ has expressed its disapproval of Imam Mohamed El Sadi's views on his "explicit" homophobia and his justifying physical violence on people who commit a criminal offence.

    ADŻ spokesman Dirk Urpani said: "While we are all out for freedom of speech, it is highly irresponsible for a religious leader to promote anti-social policies."
    Though he was referring to non-European countries, certain rights were universal and acts such as cutting off hands of people convicted of theft should be condemned by anyone living in a democratic country, he added.

    Mr El Sadi's homophobic references were equally disgusting and he should apologise to the gay community, especially for ridiculing same-sex marriages or unions by comparing them to "marrying a cat or a dog", AD said.

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]

    Independent: AD lashes out at Imam

    http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=97635
    22.11.9

    Alternattiva Demokratika and Alternattiva Demokratika Youth (ADZ) expressed their disapproval of Imam El Sadi views condoning the chopping off hands of thieves and his explicit homophobia.

    AD believed his talk during a programme on the national station, was “shocking”, especially when El Sadi usually comes out as a moderate and well-meaning cleric.

    “AD respects the right for everyone to practise their religion, but we can never accept statements, which apart from being contrary to Maltese legislation, promote hatred, violence and lack of respect for the dignity of the human person,” said AD spokesperson on Civil Rights, Yvonne Arqueros Ebejer.

    “Certain rights are universal,” ADZ said in reaction to the Imam’s views.

    “While we are all out for freedom of speech, it is highly irresponsible for a religious leader to promote anti-social policies,” said Dirk Urpani, ADZ spokesperson said in a separate statement.

    Though he was referring to non-European countries, certain rights are universal and the cutting off hands of thieves should be condemned by anyone living in a democratic country.

    Mr El Sadi’s homophobic references “are equally disgusting” Mr Urpani said. ADZ believes he should apologise to the Lesbian Gay Bisexual and Transgender community, especially for ridiculing same sex marriages or unions by comparing them to marrying a cat or a dog.

    ADZ said that Malta hosts refugees who have fled from the oppression of fundamentalist Muslim regimes. It is very offensive, to say the least, to people who left their country because of such persecution only to find a religious leader condoning the same practices that caused their oppression.

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    Friday, 20 November 2009

    PRESS RELEASE: Call to the Imam to apologise to the Maltese Gay and Lesbian Community - AD and the PL LGBT Network should issue strong statements

    20.11.9 by Dr Inġ. Patrick Attard

    I was shocked to read [Times 19.11.09] that the Muslim leader in Malta, Imam Mohamed El Sadi, attributes the Wrath of God in the world to the acceptance of gay people. It is not the first time natural disasters are attributed to the increasing acceptance of gay people as was the Tsunami which hit Thailand (26.12.2004) which was called God's punishement for homosexuality by some Muslim leaders.

    I would like to ask the Imam if he agrees with the ritual murder or execution of gays in the Muslim world, - for example the hanging of gay teenagers Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni who were publicly hung in Iran on 19.7.2005. I also would like to ask if he is suggesting that people who are gay should be executed in Malta.

    The Imam should be grateful to the 15,000 to 30,000 Maltese Gay and Lesbian Tax-payers who help fund the search-and-rescue, shelter and distributed-food to his Muslim brothers and sisters who are fleeing hardship and war from their own Muslim country and being offered temporary assistance and shelter in Malta.

    The Imam should issue a clear apology to all Maltese and Gozitan gays and lesbians.

    With regards to homosexuality, the Imam delivered explicitly a message Josef Ratzinger has been hiding in euphemisms for over 23 years.

    I hope that the Criminal Code (82A) will be soon amended to include sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of groups against which the incitement of hatred is punishable.

    I hope that both Alternattiva Demokratika, which boasts that it doesn't only give lip service to the gay minority and the new Labour LGBT network, which is now facing it's first test, will stand up for the people they represent.

    Thursday, 19 November 2009

    Times: What's wrong with chopping off thieves' hands, Imam asks


    Imam Mohamed El Sadi, the Muslim leader in Malta, believes chopping off the hands of thieves is a "deserving punishment".

    Mr El Sadi made the statement during Monday's television programme Bondiplus, where he defended Sharia law, a judicial system used in some Islamic states and which can involve severe corporal punishments.

    Contacted yesterday, Mr El Sadi stood by his comments and added the world was incurring the "wrath of God" through its permissiveness and destruction of spiritual and moral values, namely through the acceptance of " same-sex marriages, homosexuality, adultery and abortion".

    Under Sharia law, such things are considered crimes that may even be punishable by death. When asked if he agreed with such punishments he said: "Yes, of course. I agree with everything Islamic."

    The TV show discussed whether crucifixes should be banned from classrooms. When presenter Lou Bondì asked Mr El Sadi if Muslims could be more tolerant and "light-hearted" in their reactions to parody and criticism, Mr El Sadi said Europe's permissive values were not necessarily ideal.

    "Are same-sex marriages a value? What is this value? If in the future the majority of people want the right for men to marry cats, dogs or horses, will we make a law to fulfil these wishes," Mr El Sadi asked.

    Mr Bondì then asked whether religion should dictate the laws of the country, through, say, Sharia law.

    "What is wrong with Sharia law? If someone steals, he is taking from the country or the poor, so why is it wrong to cut off his hand?" the Imam replied.

    Mr El Sadi said the punishment should terrify thieves and criminals, "not the good people".
    When speaking to The Times about his remarks, the Imam said: "Why don't you concentrate on what is common rather than pick on what is controversial?"

    He said he was not proposing this system for Europe because it would be undemocratic. But it was also undemocratic for Muslim countries not to use it because most Muslims wanted it.
    The system was practised in Saudi Arabia for centuries and yielded results but many Muslim-majority countries believed in secularism and did not employ such practice, he said.

    He conceded there were different kinds of Muslims who thought of Sharia differently. "But whoever denies this is not a Muslim," he said, adding the law of God was perfect.

    He said there were many safeguards to ensure Sharia law was applied justly, through a court system that depended on having several witnesses. "This does not apply to thieves who are poor or hungry. This is for people who have everything and want more; people who are greedy... The point is to frighten criminals."

    Fr Renè Camilleri, who was also a guest on the programme, said he was "shocked" by the Imam's comments.

    "I tried to insist violence is unacceptable. The concept is horrific to me. It is equivalent to the death penalty. I know it is what Sharia law dictates but, coming from him, such a moderate and tolerant person, I was shocked," he said, adding he never considered the Imam to be a fundamentalist.

    Reacting to the television debate, anthropologist Ranier Fsadni warned against "misunderstanding" the comments and said such views were probably not shared by all Muslims in Europe.

    He said many migrated because they did not like the society they lived in, while a large number of others came from countries that did not believe Sharia was prescribed by the Quran or meant to be taken literally without taking the culture of the time into context.

    "Just as a priest does not necessarily represent all his community, the Imam does not necessarily represent all Muslims in Malta. Then, again, he is respected and appreciated as a pastoral leader."

    Mr Fsadni said the Imam was simply being "intellectually honest" and defending his belief and was not proposing the system for Malta. He was also honest about his views of democracy and the rule of the majority.

    A video clip with the Imam's comment can be viewed on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2gtOO029U. [see below]

    [Click on the hyperlink above to view the comments on the Times' website.]
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